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ニコニコ動画赤字に関して ニコニコ動画はうp主をただ働きさせているのか - 最終防衛ライン3

個人的には、プレミアム会員増やす方が手っ取り早そうですけども、プレミアム会員に魅力があまりないですからね。松竹梅商法(人は真ん中を選ぶ)とか、プレミアム会員にしか見られない動画(2ちゃんねるでの過去ログ的な何か)や、アカウント増やさなくても追加料金払えばマイリストや動画のアップ容量を増やせるとか。ただし、最後のはユーザーにアカウント増やさせた方が、会員数の水増し的にも、システムや会計処理的にもニコニコ動画にとっては良いからやらないだけな気がしますが。

いくつかはもうやられてるんだけどね。プレミアム特典がどんだけ知られてないかよく分かる。

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【プレミアム会員とは?】

プレミアム会員(ニコニコプレミアム)とは、「ニコニコ動画」や「SMILEVIDEO」で様々な特典を受けられる有料サービスです。下記の様々な特典の他、新サービスの先行リリースやイベントへのご優待など、プレミアムならではの特典をご用意しています!

《コメントの過去ログ閲覧》

見逃した、気になるネ申コメントを再生できる過去ログ閲覧が可能!

(一般会員は見ることができません)

SMILEVIDEOへのアップロード可能容量》

たくさんの動画を余裕でアップロードできる8GBの大容量!

(一般会員は2GBまで)

SMILEVIDEOへのアップロード可能ビットレート》

高画質、高音質の動画を見せられる最大800kbps!

(一般会員は600kbpsまで)

この二つは割と話題に上ったので知ってたけれど(たまに使うし)、全ての特典をちゃんと把握してるプレミアム会員とか、あんま居る気がしない。

あとつくづく思うけど、ブログ界隈で行われている批判・改定案・妄想その他はYouTube板で行われているそれとかと比べてヌルいよなぁ。まぁあっちは動画投稿者とか中にゴロゴロ詰まっていて侃々諤々やってるわけだから濃くて当然なんだろうけど。

・・・

ai sp@ceがアイテム課金のえげつなさで話題になってましたが、むしろそういうので毟っていけるのはニコ動だと思うんですけどね。ゲーム的な要素を纏えそうに見える。

そこらへんtwitterでmedtoolzさんが言ってることが私には面白かった。

プレミア会員が、特定の書き込みをban できる機能とかつくと、ニコ動で日韓大戦が勃発したとき、プレミア会員が「神」としてあがめられるようになったりして。。

medtoolzさんのツイート: "プレミア会員が、特定の書き込みをban できる機能とかつくと、ニコ動で日韓大戦が勃発したとき、プレミア会員が「神」としてあがめられるようになったりして。。"

何となくだけれど、無料会員と有料会員と、融和目指すよりも対立をネタにする方向のほうが、コミュニティとして面白いような気がする。実世界では絶対にできないことだからこそ。

medtoolzさんのツイート: "何となくだけれど、無料会員と有料会員と、融和目指すよりも対立をネタにする方向のほうが、コミュニティとして面白いような気がする。実世界では絶対にできないことだからこそ。"

SNS内の小さなコミュニティにしても、「有料会員様」をたくさん抱えたコミュニティのほうが、何かの形で発言力の高さを見せつけられるとか。ブルジョアコミュニティだと、有料会員割合に応じて、フォントが意味もなく太っていくとか

medtoolzさんのツイート: "SNS内の小さなコミュニティにしても、「有料会員様」をたくさん抱えたコミュニティのほうが、何かの形で発言力の高さを見せつけられるとか。ブルジョアコミュニティだと、有料会員割合に応じて、フォントが意味もなく太っていくとか"

 

ゲームメーカーとニコニコ動画の提携

 例えばアイマス、というかニコマスというのは、ニコニコにタダ乗りすること存在しえているアイドル育成ネットゲームです。ニコニコを使ってる限り、サーバー、システム管理、ユーザー作成のPVに使われてる楽曲の使用料など諸々のコストがかからない。逆に言うとコスト面から考えて、バンナム自身で「アイドル育成ネットゲーム*1 IDOL M@STER」を作るのは不可能でした。

 なんでこんな風に考えるかというと、私がアーケード時遊んでいて、これがネトゲだったらなとか色々妄想していたからなんですが、白前提で(というかその頃白でないネトゲ、ネットサービスなぞ夢にも想像できなかったですから、ただ“あたりまえ”に妄想していただけですが)考えるとすごく厳しい。歌わせる楽曲はどこから取ってくるのか。ユーザーに楽曲を投稿してもらえるようなシステムを自前で持つ?ユーザー層が違いすぎるだろ。インストならまだ多少期待は持てるけど歌モノなんか来そうにねえよ。既にある音楽投稿系サービスと提携すればまだ……。あーだめ、半年で消える香りがしてきた……

 それが実現しちゃったわけです。しかも全然公式には関係を結んでいない、外部のサイトを使って。それがニコマスの衝撃です(少なくとも私にとっては)。

 まあ何が言いたいかというと、このゆるい、非公式な関係によって成り立つ何か、という所に色々可能性があると思うわけです。酷い話ですが。もっともバンナムあんま儲けられてねーとか言うところで微妙でもあるんですが、これの解決は間接的にしか行い得ないと思うんです。直接いくと健全化しなければならず、前提が崩れますから。というか間接的に回収するの考えるの楽しくね? という感じなんですが、私からすると。Web2.0の何が我々を惹きつけたかってGoogle AdSenseだのの、こんなやり方で回収するのかっていう発想の面白さでしょ?

 例えばアイマスで言ったら、バンナムはアイドルの番組出演動画を売れば良いんです。DVDとかに詰めて、ファンディスクとかいう体裁で。ニコマスに関わっていく中で何がユーザーを躊躇させるかって言ったら、XBOX360は買えねえよ、な訳ですから。まあ自殺行為なんですけど、手をかけても良い時期は多分どこかにはあるでしょう、次の次世代機も来るでしょうし。

 そんな風に関係を結ぼうとする奇矯なメーカーが出てきたら嬉しいな、私は。

*1:一応アイマスもネットゲームではあるんですが、ここでは「アイドルの価値の算定、その効用の決定が普通のゲームのようにアルゴリズムによってではなくユーザー、人間というもジュールによってなされるようにデザインされたネットゲーム」という意味にしておいてください。

lastlinelastline2008/11/11 00:28プレミアム会員なんですけども、特典知らないとかどうかと感じます(笑)。
我ながら言葉足らずですいません。動画容量やマイリストに関しては、プレミアムでも足りないって人用に適宜追加できるようにって事が言いたかったんですけども全然そうは読めませんね(笑)
過去コメ読めるのは失念してましたけど、字幕職人が流れててもわざわざ探さないですし。その他特典はありますが、今ひとつ魅力に欠けるように感じてます。

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魔根金虫草カプセル「魔根」は補、滋、養、潤の働き、、また、強、猛、迅速、堅の特徴もあり,中国グリーン漢方薬製品の代表で、性機能障碍(ED)を治療する今までにはない画期的な逸品です。 “魔根金虫草カプセル”国 際男科大会唯一の金賞受賞製品です。27種類の純漢方薬を配合、腎臓補強、疲労に耐えて、陰陽両方補強、人体機能を全面的に調節して、免疫力を向上させる機能を持ちます。特に男性性機能の面で、即効性や持久力などで高い評価を得ています。

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